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		<title>Will Senators Lincoln, Webb, Lieberman and others keep their promise of transparency?</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalwhoppers.com/2009/12/19/will-senators-lincoln-webb-lieberman-and-others-keep-their-promise-of-transparency/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 17:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Harry Reid is going to attempt to get the Senate Democrats to vote for cloture before they are any of their constituents have had time read and understand the bill. Senators Lincoln, Bayh, Landrieu, Lieberman, McCaskill, Nelson, Pryor and Webb all committed in October to a transparent process on health care reform, which would include [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry Reid is going to attempt to get the Senate Democrats to vote for cloture before they are any of their constituents have had time read and understand the bill.</p>
<p>Senators Lincoln, Bayh, Landrieu, Lieberman, McCaskill, Nelson, Pryor and Webb all committed in October to a transparent process on health care reform, which would include the health care bill being on a public website for at least 72 hours before the first vote (cloture) would be made.  They claimed they wanted this to give their constituents time to read key bills and amendments and then contact their Senators with feedback.</p>
<p>Earlier we posted a <a href="http://www.liberalwhoppers.com/2009/12/19/take-action-contact-information-for-key-senators-in-health-care-vote/" target="_blank">link to a contact page</a> for key Senators in the cloture vote.  It&#8217;s time to pick up the phone or log onto the computer and let these Senators know what you think of the Barack Obama, Chicago-Style politics that Harry Reid is using to force a health care bill through, simply because Obama wants it by Christmas (which incidentally is a word Dems of virtually struck from our public vocabulary).</p>
<p>Here is the  article from our friends at the <a href="http://patriotroom.com/article/reid-amendment-violates-eight-dems-transparency-pledges" target="_blank">Patriot Room</a> that includes the letter:</p>
<blockquote><p>This is a letter from October 2009. Note the signatories. Will Lincoln, Webb, and Bayh step forward now?</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://republican.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Blogs.View&amp;Blog_Id=473ab12f-db8d-4900-96ae-94ec5570242f" target="_blank">Full text</a>:</p>
<p>October 6, 2009</p>
<p>The Honorable Harry Reid</p>
<p>Senate Majority Leader</p>
<p>S-221 United States Capitol</p>
<p>Washington, DC 20510</p>
<p>Dear Leader Reid:</p>
<p>As you know, Americans across our country have been actively engaged in the debate on health care reform. Whether or not our constituents agree with the direction of the debate, many are frustrated and lacking accurate information on the emerging proposals in Congress. Without a doubt, reforming health care in America is one of the most monumental and far-reaching undertakings considered by this body in decades. We believe the American public&#8217;s participation in this process is critical to our overall success of creating a bill that lowers health care costs and offers access to quality and affordable health care for all Americans.</p>
<p>Every step of the process needs to be transparent, and information regarding the bill needs to be readily available to our constituents before the Senate starts to vote on legislation that will affect the lives of every American. The legislative text and complete budget scores from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) of the health care legislation considered on the Senate floor should be made available on a website the public can access for at least 72 hours prior to the first vote to proceed to the legislation. Likewise, the legislative text and complete CBO scores of the health care legislation as amended should be made available to the public for 72 hours prior to the vote on final passage of the bill in the Senate. Further, the legislative text of all amendments filed and offered for debate on the Senate floor should be posted on a public website prior to beginning debate on the amendment on the Senate floor. Lastly, upon a final agreement between the House of Representatives and the Senate, a formal conference report detailing the agreement and complete CBO scores of the agreement should be made available to the public for 72 hours prior to the vote on final passage of the conference report in the Senate.</p>
<p>By publically posting the legislation and its CBO scores 72 hours before it is brought to a vote in the Senate and by publishing the text of amendments before they are debated, our constituents will have the opportunity to evaluate these policies and communicate their concerns or their message of support to their Members of Congress. As their democratically-elected representatives in Washington, D.C., it is our duty to listen to their concerns and to provide them with the chance to respond to proposals that will impact their lives. At a time when trust in Congress and the U.S. government is unprecedentedly low, we can begin to rebuild the American people&#8217;s faith in their federal government through transparency and by actively inviting Americans to participate in the legislative process.</p>
<p>We respectfully request that you agree to these principles before moving forward with floor debate of this legislation. We appreciate your serious consideration and look forward to working with you on health care reform legislation in the weeks ahead.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Senator Blanche L. Lincoln</p>
<p>Senator Evan Bayh</p>
<p>Senator Mary L. Landrieu</p>
<p>Senator Joseph I. Lieberman</p>
<p>Senator Claire McCaskill</p>
<p>Senator Ben Nelson</p>
<p>Senator Mark L. Pryor</p>
<p>Senator Jim Webb</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Obama&#8217;s &#8220;pass the bill, whatever the cost&#8221; is infuriating many Democrats in the House and Senate</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The president has spoken: get a deal done before Christmas, whatever the cost &#8212; whatever deals must be struck or compromises made. There are reports from multiple Senate sources that Rahm Emanuel told Senate Democrats that the President wants a health care bill passed, and that passage is the only thing that is non-negotiable.  That [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The president has spoken: get a deal done before Christmas, whatever the cost &#8212; whatever deals must be struck or compromises made.</p>
<p>There are reports from multiple Senate sources that Rahm Emanuel told Senate Democrats that the President wants a health care bill passed, and that passage is the only thing that is non-negotiable.  That any and every aspect of the bill, including the public option, can be changed or removed if that&#8217;s what it takes to get a bill passed.  Pass it, no matter the cost.</p>
<p>Congressman Anthony Weiner (D-NY) and other Democrats in Washington are furious with this approach.  They believe that a small number of rogue Democrats are standing in the way of a once in a lifetime chance to fundamentally change the health care system in this country.</p>
<p>Congressman Weiner said, &#8220;Snowe? Stupak? Lieberman?  Who left these people in charge?  It&#8217;s time for the President to get his hands dirty.  Some of us have compromised our compromised compromises.&#8221;</p>
<p>Speaking on Fox and Friends this morning, Weiner said that President Obama really believes in the public option and he campaigned on the public option, and Weiner believes if Obama had really &#8220;put his finger on the scale and said this is what I really want&#8221; and really pushed for it, they would get the public option.  Congressman Weiner doesn&#8217;t believe that passing something now and fixing it later is a solid approach, as it may be a long time before the Democrats are in position again to implement major reform.  He referred to himself as &#8220;angry&#8221; over the direction the Senate health care bill is heading.</p>
<p><a href="http://newsmax.com/Newsfront/US-Health-Care-Overhaul/2009/12/16/id/343416" target="_blank">Newsmax reported</a> on the Democrats coming to grips with the compromise that Obama still calls &#8220;the biggest thing since Social Security&#8221;:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The president and vice president pointed out that you take your victories when you can and nothing prevents you from fighting on for the things you believe should have been achieved,&#8221; said Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, D-R.I. &#8220;But why spurn a victory in hand?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;There was frustration and angst,&#8221; Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., a leading liberal, said after the meeting at the White House. &#8220;Everybody has things they want, and they didn&#8217;t all get what they want and that includes me, big-time.&#8221;</p>
<p>But Obama got their attention, said Rockefeller, describing a health care remake to cover tens of millions now uninsured as &#8220;the biggest thing since Social Security.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s hard to ignore that,&#8221; Rockefeller said.</p>
<p>Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La., a moderate who had been on the fence, said Tuesday night it&#8217;s time to pass the bill.</p></blockquote>
<p>At the same time that multiple House and Senate Democrats voiced their displeasure with the direction the health care bill &#8212; with some stating they wouldn&#8217;t vote for it &#8212; Senator Harry Reid has laid out an aggressive time line that he says could lead to a vote on Dec 23 or 24th.</p>
<p>It is clear that President Obama does not want the Senators to go back to their states during the Christmas recess and have a repeat of what happened this summer, where angry constituents voiced their displeasure with the proposed health care bills.  The White House watches the polls, and they see that the majority of Americans are against the proposed health care bill and fear that if they don&#8217;t get a deal done by Christmas, they might not get one done.</p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t done so, it&#8217;s time to contact your Senators and let them know your position on the bill.  They are YOUR representatives, tell them how you feel.</p>
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		<title>CBS again guilty of liberal media bias</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday, we covered Keith Olbermann&#8217;s nonsensical Monday night rant, where he lashed out at Bill O&#8217;Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and others.  Not only did he go on about how there is no liberal media bias, but he also went on to say &#8220;comparing them to disease gives disease a bad name.&#8221; Another night and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday, we covered Keith Olbermann&#8217;s <a href="http://www.liberalwhoppers.com/2009/12/15/the-debate-is-over-olbermann-declares-there-is-no-media-bias/" target="_blank">nonsensical Monday night rant</a>, where he lashed out at Bill O&#8217;Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and others.  Not only did he go on about how there is no liberal media bias, but he also went on to say &#8220;comparing them to disease gives disease a bad name.&#8221;</p>
<p>Another night and another Olbermann tirade (anyone else think he should have kept that Sportscenter job?).  Last night he lashed out at Joe Lieberman calling him an embarrassment and suggesting Lieberman should resign over his position on the proposed health care bill.</p>
<p>Tonight, CBS showed they are clearly on the media-bias bandwagon in attacking Joe Lieberman for simply doing his job.</p>
<p>Newsbusters breaks down the <a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2009/12/16/cbs-relays-liberal-anger-their-agenda-being-hijacked-few" target="_blank">latest rants</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>A night after MSNBC&#8217;s Keith Olbermann demanded Senator Joe Lieberman “just resign already” as he shrieked “you are embarrassing humanity!”, CBS joined in targeting Connecticut&#8217;s “independent Democrat” for daring to oppose liberals on health care. “He holds the 60th vote needed to get the health care reform bill passed in the Senate,” anchor Katie Couric intoned, “and Nancy Cordes tells us supporters of reform are angry and confused about Lieberman&#8217;s position.”</p>
<p>Cordes soon expanded the exasperation to include “Democratic Senators Mary Landrieu, Blanche Lincoln and Ben Nelson” who “successfully blocked the public option even though the other 55 Democrats support it. Nelson is still holding out for stricter anti-abortion language, leading some liberals to complain their agenda is being hijacked by a few.” She demanded of Lieberman: “Does it trouble you that you&#8217;re going against an overwhelming majority of your caucus?” (Hard to imagine a CBS reporter ever scolding a more liberal Republican for defying the party&#8217;s conservative majority.)</p>
<p>A frustrated Cordes concluded: “So this small group of four or so Senators has managed successfully to impose their will on the other 530 members of Congress because the changes that they&#8217;re demanding to the Senate bill will likely have to be made to the House bill, too.”</p></blockquote>
<p>In a court of law, they often use the &#8220;reasonable person&#8221; test.  Would a &#8220;reasonable person&#8221; reach a certain conclusion?  Can any reasonable person read or watch the CBS and MSNBC reports of the last three days and honestly claim that these reporters&#8217; liberal bias is not only clouding their ability to be unbiased, but is showing in their venomous reports?</p>
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		<title>Is $500 million the price of Senator Nelson&#8217;s vote on health care bill?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Senator Ben Nelson has said that he will not vote for a health care bill unless it included an amendment forbidding the use of federal funds for abortion. Now that Joe Lieberman&#8217;s vote is in the bag with the expansion of Medicare being removed from the bill last night, it appears the Senate is prepared [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senator Ben Nelson has said that he will not vote for a health care bill unless it included an amendment forbidding the use of federal funds for abortion.</p>
<p>Now that Joe Lieberman&#8217;s vote is in the bag with the expansion of Medicare being removed from the bill last night, it appears the Senate is prepared to use both a carrot and stick to get Nelson on board &#8212; whatever it takes.</p>
<p>Redstate is <a href="http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/12/15/dems-offer-nelson-up-to-500-billion-in-earmarks-to-vote-yes/" target="_blank">reporting</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The White House and Democratic Leadership in the Senate has told Senator Nelson they will close every military base in Nebraska — a threat that is not credible, really — but they have also offered Senator Nelson between $300 million to $500 million in earmarks, according to key hill health care operatives. These hundreds of millions will be available for whatever he wants to spend them on in Nebraska.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Updated: Is public option dead &#8211; Senator Max Baucus confirms</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It would appear that the reports that Obama told Reid to pull Medicare expansion out of the health care bill in order to get Lieberaman on board are true. TPM is reporting that Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA) has said that the Medicare option is going to be pulled: Asked by a reporter if the Medicare [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would appear that the reports that Obama told Reid to pull Medicare expansion out of the health care bill in order to get Lieberaman on board are true.</p>
<p><a href="http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/12/harkin-theres-enough-good-in-this-bill-without-medicare-buy-in-trigger.php" target="_blank">TPM</a> is reporting that Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA) has said that the Medicare option is going to be pulled:</p>
<blockquote><p>Asked by a reporter if the Medicare buy-in will be pulled out, Harkin said &#8220;looks that way,&#8221; before praising a Democratic health care bill without the two public option compromises.</p>
<p>&#8220;There&#8217;s enough good in this bill that even without those two, we gotta move,&#8221; he said. &#8220;All the insurance reforms, all the stuff we wrote so hard for prevention and wellness in there, the workforce development issues that we have in there, the reimbursement based on quality not on quantity &#8212; there&#8217;s good stuff in this bill. It&#8217;s a giant step forward, changing the paradigm of health care in America.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>UPDATE:  Senator Max Baucus spoke to press after the Democratic caucus meeting and confirmed that the medicare/public option is likely dead.  The <a href="http://patriotroom.com/article/breaking-senate-democrats-likely-to-drop-medicare-expansion" target="_blank">Patriot Room reports</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>After a tense 90-minute meeting on Monday evening, Senator Max Baucus, Democrat of Montana and chairman of the Finance Committee, was asked if Democrats were likely to jettison the Medicare proposal.</p>
<p>“It’s looking like that’s the case,” Mr. Baucus said, indicating that the provision might be scrapped as a way of “getting support from 60 senators.”</p></blockquote>
<p>UPDATE 2:  Here is the <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2009/12/14/breaking-lieberman-wins-senate-drops-medicare-buy-in/trackback/" target="_blank">Hot Air take</a> on this:</p>
<blockquote><p>Lieberman said he can (read: will) vote for the bill without the public plan provisions. Reaction, straight off the top of my head: (1) Kind of surprising that neither Snowe nor Collins defected to bail Reid out, eh? Now that he’s back to 60-ish, I wonder if they or Nelson, Bayh, Lincoln, etc. will suddenly ramp up their own demands. (2) The Democrats are so frantic to pass something at this point — e.g., there was a rumor floated earlier today that Emanuel was pressuring Reid to use reconciliation — that Pelosi will almost certainly want to ping-pong the Senate bill. Will the absence of a public option convince Blue Dogs who voted no on the House bill to vote yes this time or will the gruesome polling scare them away? If they do vote yes, are there enough of them to make up for the number of House progressives who will surely vote no this time? (3) Further to the last point, what about the abortion conflict now? The House bill banned abortion funding, the Senate bill allows it. If Bart Stupak and his pro-life Blue Dogs are serious, they can probably kill the whole project. I wonder if Reid will let Nelson reintroduce an abortion funding ban in the Senate and force it through to eliminate that problem. I still don’t see how they’re getting this all done by New Year’s, though.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Obama summons Senate Democrats to White House for final push on health care</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In an effort to &#8216;close the deal&#8217;, President Obama first ordered Harry Reid to drop the public option/Medicare provision so that they could get Joe Lieberman&#8217;s vote, and now he is calling them to the White House to rally support. Over the weekend, the President gave a pep talk to the Senate Democratic caucus on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an effort to &#8216;close the deal&#8217;, President Obama first ordered Harry Reid to drop the public option/Medicare provision so that they could get Joe Lieberman&#8217;s vote, and now he is calling them to the White House to rally support.</p>
<p>Over the weekend, the President gave a pep talk to the Senate Democratic caucus on Capital Hill, and now he&#8217;s calling them to the White House to take another shot at it.</p>
<p>President Obama is using a full court press to try and get Obamacare passed before the Christmas recess.  He is trying to deal with the fact that some Senators have said they would not vote for a bill that didn&#8217;t contain a public option, and others that said they wouldn&#8217;t vote for a bill that increases the debt or that doesn&#8217;t have a prohibition on the use of federal funds to pay for abortions.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/15/medicare-buy-scrapped-obama-summons-dems/" target="_blank">Foxnews reports</a> on the Tuesday afternoon meeting at the White House:</p>
<blockquote><p>Even an expansion of Medicare, initially proposed as a backup to the government insurance option, appeared unlikely to survive following a closed-door senators-only meeting of the Democratic caucus called to consider trade-offs necessary to assure 60 votes for the bill. Medicare is the government program providing health care benefits to the elderly.</p>
<p>&#8220;Put me down tonight as encouraged about the direction these talks are going,&#8221; Sen. Joe Lieberman, an independent from Connecticut, said late Monday, only 24 hours after he rattled Democrats by threatening to oppose the legislation over the Medicare expansion provision.</p>
<p>Obama invited all Senate Democrats to the White House for a meeting Tuesday afternoon that held promise of a unity event. Obama needs every one of them to hang together to give him the 60 votes required to overcome Republicans united in opposition to the sweeping health overhaul measure.</p>
<p>Majority Leader Harry Reid promised to deliver.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m confident that by next week we will be on our way toward final passage of a bill that saves lives, saves money and saves Medicare,&#8221; Reid told reporters after Monday night&#8217;s meeting.</p>
<p>Liberals had sought the Medicare expansion as a last-minute substitute for a full-blown, government-run insurance program that moderates insisted be removed from the legislation. But it drew strong opposition from Lieberman and quieter concerns from other Democrats &#8212; all of whom hold votes essential for passage.</p>
<p>Reid did not say flatly that Democrats had decided to drop the proposal for uninsured Americans as young as 55 to purchase coverage under Medicare, the government program now open to people when they turn 65. But several senators said it appeared inevitable.</p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re not going to get all that we want but we&#8217;re going to get so much more than we have,&#8221; liberal Sen. Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia said.</p></blockquote>
<p>If you oppose this health care bill, this may be your last chance to contact your Senator and let him or her know your feelings, as we are likely to see a vote this week.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is Harry Reid being ordered to do whatever it takes to get Lieberman on board? Politico is reporting that the White House is ordering Reid to cut a deal with Liberman, which could include removing the Medicare expansion from the bill: The White House is encouraging Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) to cut a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Harry Reid being ordered to do whatever it takes to get Lieberman on board?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/30572.html" target="_blank">Politico</a> is reporting that the White House is ordering Reid to cut a deal with Liberman, which could include removing the Medicare expansion from the bill:</p>
<blockquote><p>The White House is encouraging Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) to cut a deal with Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), which would mean eliminating the proposed Medicare expansion in the health reform bill, according to an official close to the negotiations.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>But Reid is described as so frustrated with Lieberman that he is not ready to sacrifice a key element of the health care bill, and first wants to see the Congressional Budget Office cost analysis of the Medicare buy-in. The analysis is expected early this week.</p>
<p>&#8220;There is a weariness and a lot of frustration that one person is holding up the will of 59 others,&#8221; the official said. “There is still too much anger and confusion at one particular senator’s reversal.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Further support for this story is that <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2009/12/14/report-white-house-orders-reid-to-make-a-deal-with-lieberman/" target="_blank">Hot Air</a> is reporting that President Obama has summoned Senate Democrats to the White House and describes why this story is likely true:</p>
<blockquote><p>If it’s kabuki, why send the bill to CBO to be scored? Reid could simply hold onto it, wait for Lieberman to preemptively shoot it down, and then claim the “ol’ college try” political cover he needs to please the left. By sending it to CBO, he’s taking a risk: Given the crumbling polls and wavering by Blue Dogs like Nelson and Lincoln, if it comes back graded as a budget-buster, centrists may decide that there’s no way to get to 60 and the whole thing could collapse. Don’t forget either that they’re desperate to pass this by Christmas so that public anger will cool a bit over the holidays and The One will have a major accomplishment to stroke in his State of the Union speech. If it drags into January — as one Senate aide tells John Hawkins will certainly happen — those benefits are lost, which leaves Reid with little time now to mess around with kabuki. In fact, according to Politico, if they don’t hold a cloture vote by the end of this week, this thing ain’t happening in December. Besides, if it’s all kabuki, why rely on Lieberman to be a scapegoat “no” vote instead of recruiting your own? Mark Pryor comes from a red state and isn’t up for reelection until 2014; progressives aren’t going to go after him and give up a seat, especially that far into the future.</p></blockquote>
<p>This appears to be another case of &#8220;with the help of the liberal media, we can sell anything to the American voters.&#8221;  Reid and leading Democratic Senators really believed that they could sell an expansion of Medicare, a single payer system, to the American voters as a compromise and a better solution than a public option.  In fact, Representative Anthony Weiner (D-NY) described the &#8216;compromise&#8217; expansion of medicare as “an unvarnished, complete victory for people like me who have been arguing for a single-payer system.”</p>
<p>While it is a topic too big for this post, anyone that knows people in England or Canada and have heard the first hand stories of their National Health Services, know the many failings of single payer, government run health care system.</p>
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		<title>Joe Says &#8220;No&#8221;:  Lieberman won&#8217;t vote for healthcare bill that expands Medicare</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[While Harry Reid has been touting replacing the public option with an expansion of Medicare (lowering the eligible age to 55), many see it as yet another attempt to take a step towards a single payer system.  Far from a true compromise. Joe Lieberman&#8217;s comments on the proposed &#8216;compromise&#8217;: &#8220;Though I don&#8217;t know exactly what&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Harry Reid has been touting replacing the public option with an expansion of Medicare (lowering the eligible age to 55), many see it as yet another attempt to take a step towards a single payer system.  Far from a true compromise.</p>
<p><a href="http://feeds.foxnews.com/~r/foxnews/latest/~3/IK_WGuKAgqE/" target="_blank">Joe Lieberman&#8217;s comments</a> on the proposed &#8216;compromise&#8217;:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Though I don&#8217;t know exactly what&#8217;s in it, from what I hear, I certainly would have a hard time voting for it because it has some of the same infirmities that the public option did.</p>
<p>&#8220;It will add taxpayer costs. It will add to the deficit. It&#8217;s unnecessary,&#8221; he added of a provision that Reid last week hailed as part of a breakthrough between liberals and moderates.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Lieberman pleaded with Democrats to start subtracting expensive proposals from the overhaul, saying, &#8220;We don&#8217;t need to keep adding onto the back of this horse or we&#8217;re going to break the horse&#8217;s back and get nothing done.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Lieberman joins Democrat Claire McCaskill in publicly stating on Sunday an opposition to the current proposal.  Both have indicated that they will not vote for a bill that increases costs, which the Medicare expansion will do.</p>
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